COMBICHRIST - An interview with Andy LaPlegua
by David Lees
As their Evolution tour kicks off
in Europe I got a chance to talk to Combichrist front man Andy LaPlegua about
touring, controversy, side projects and video games.
How would you say the tour's
going so far?
Great, it's only the third show on
this specific trip, I mean there's been hundreds before but specifically on this
trip it's the third show tonight, the first two shows went really well and I'm
excited to be doing this one and I'm sure we're going to have a lot of fun
tonight.
With the schedule you have it
must sometimes feel like you're on a constant tour.
Yeah, well, but it's also...the
thing is when you get to a certain point and you've been touring for a while you
kinda get tired of being on the road but every single day when you actually get
on-stage it's worth it. It's just the off-stage part, the whole day of routines,
there is not exactly very interesting things to do and you don't really get to
see the cities a lot, you see mostly the inside of the venue-
We're interrupted here by a beer
delivery from tour manager Jan.
You said with the Making Monsters
album that you wrote a lot of that on the road rather than in a studio and it
brought something different to the album. Are you doing that again, have you
been writing on this tour?
I have, but not for Combichrist
really. I've been writing a lot but I'm writing...I have no idea what's going to
happen with it and don't know when it'll come out but I've just been writing for
a solo album which is more or less an acoustic thing and it's a lot of fun and
very different to work on. There's no electronics it's just acoustic and vocals
basically so it's been a lot of fun. If I'm ever going to be able to write
another Combichrist album again I probably will have to write a lot of it on
tour anyway. I don't think I have too much of a choice in the matter, you know.
Unless I can finally take a solid break and just focus in the studio but we'll
see whether that happens.
What's the solo project, what
kind of style is it?
There's no name, I don't really have
any name on it, it's probably just going to be under my name or something, it's
just a mix of...I don't know...it's kind of folky but at the same time it's more
like acoustic guitar bar music, almost.
There's been a lot of controversy
about the use of misogynistic and racist imagery in the industrial scene since
Adversary's video about you and Nachtmahr at Kinetik. I know you've addressed
this subject over and over, but I was wondering if this controversy has caused
you to rethink anything or has had an influence on the direction of Combichrist
at all.
In one way it makes me want to do it
more. But...just because I don't feel like I have to justify anything because
it's like, you don't have to justify yourself if you're making a movie, why
should you justify yourself if you're making an album? And it's a character,
that's it. But at the same time there are other bands that are doing things that
I think are completely ridiculous, I think it's ridiculous what they're doing
and I think it's not even provocative and it's definitely not characters it's
just doing it because...it's like kids do these things when they first start
because they're kids, they don't know better. They want to provoke and they want
to be...but some older artists should know better and they're provoking with
things that are not provocative. It's just ridiculous. I never did anything to
provoke, ever. I never wanted to do anything to provoke. I always did it with a
smile and it was just always more like a joke than to provoke and obviously I've
never been anything like the character behind Combichrist.
Every now and then the only thing
that I think about is, you see people in the scene that might take what you're
saying and what you're writing and take it seriously and you kind of readdress
the thoughts to it and go “Should I tell them that I'm not serious about this?”
(laughs) but at the same time, I've got other things to do than to tell people
how to translate things into their own head. It's kind of like people blaming
video games for things and you go “It's not the video game, it's this person
would have done something regardless” because that's just how their psyche is.
These people who do something horrible, they will blame it on something else.
KMFDM got blamed for things for Columbine and they never had any lyrics saying
“You should go to school and shoot a lot of kids”. Just because they listened to
KMFDM doesn't mean it's KMFDM's fault that they go and do these things. People
have to think for themselves. I just get provoked when people, like, think
that...for example somebody stated that I was racist. Which is really funny,
it's like “Based on what?” Oh, based on that you had a rebel flag shirt on. OK,
I live in Atlanta, in Georgia. It's about 70% African American. If I were
racist, first of all I probably wouldn't move to Atlanta. Second of all most of
my friends there are African Americans. My studio complex, it's only hip-hop
artists and I work with a lot of them including like, Ludacris and artists like
that are in my building. The rebel flag was the Georgian state flag until 2001.
It's just people are ignorant and they don't know what they're talking about and
it just provokes me a little bit when people say...it doesn't provoke me that
they state anything about me, it provokes me that they're ignorant enough to not
know their history lesson when they're trying to be politically correct. At
least know what you're talking about before you try to state something as
political.
Do you feel that that kind of
provocation element, that horror fantasy element is an integral part of
industrial music and if so what do you do when it becomes passe and it stops
shocking people?
Nothing shocks people. It's already
passe. Everything's passe. Like I said, I never did it to shock people, I did it
for entertainment. I like horror movies, I like 70's exploitation movies, I like
grindhouse movies, I like these things as entertainment and nothing to do with
my personal life or anything like that. I obviously don't behave like any of
that but that's my inspiration, you know, that kind of what we've been doing,
until lately, and it's not because I got shit for it it's just because I've done
it, time to do something different.
But within the industrial scene it's
been passe since before Combichrist started. It's been passe since the mid-90's.
Skinny Puppy did it, NIN did it, everybody did it. Klinik, Laether Strip,
everybody all had S&M songs, this is like 80's you know. Carlos Peron was
all about gay sadomasochistic stuff and it's like, you know, everything's been
done in the scene so it's not about being innovative any more it's about doing
what's right for yourself and what you like to do and I think people try too
hard to be something or do something. Just do what you're good at, you know,
just be what you are and do what you are and write about things you want, not
for provoking, not for the style of it but because you like to do it.
You're going to be doing an
American tour with Icon of Coil in September. What inspired you to tour again as
you said last year Icon of Coil was dead and it was only the odd one-off show
you'd do?
It was. It was. It was SO dead. Then
we headed off to do Australia. I'd been there already three times before that
with Combichrist and I was talking to the guys and I was like “Hey guys, we
should do this, you guys would really enjoy it because it's a lot of fun” and we
decided to do the tour just for that trip and we had so much fun together, like,
the chemistry was just right for everything and we had such a good balance
between the three of us and on stage and everything, so we decided to write
another album, we decided to do some more touring. When that album's going to be
done, that's another question. We're working on it (laughs). We really are,
we're really trying to get it, but it would have to be right, it's not going to
be an album we would do just to do an album. After this long it'd have to be
right, you know.
You're also involved in the new
Devil May Cry game, on the soundtrack to that. I was just wondering how deep
your involvement on that is, is it just licensing a few Combichrist songs or do
you have any more input on it?
We're doing a very big part of it.
There's a couple of other artists as well involved, that are amazing artists,
but I've done a lot of new material for the game and also they have licensed a
lot of other material from Combichrist as well so this is definitely a huge
involvement in the game and I can't wait to see the game, it's going to be
absolutely amazing. I've been going through all the raw material and stuff as
I've been working on it and it's just absolutely amazing. It's been a crazy,
crazy experience being able to work on such a game too. The only things I've
done in the past is just like work on stuff that's kinda already done and to be
able to be somehow a part of the creative process was really amazing.
Are you much of a gamer
yourself?
When I have time. (laughs) I kinda
got stuck with a couple of games and that's all I ever play. Gears of War and
Halo are the only two things I always play because I get stuck on them. I don't
have much time to play so when I do play it takes so long for me to get into
other games since I've been playing these so much now. But yeah I love playing
games.
I was wondering if you thought
your support slot with Rammstein last year had opened up opportunities like
these for you and if so do you have anything else coming up that's a bit
different or unusual?
Nothing planned as for now, but the
Rammstein tour definitely changed a lot for us. Not necessarily...I mean
obviously we had openings here and there, stuff that opened up for us and
attention that we didn't have before which is obviously an amazing opportunity.
But I think the most important thing for us was that we got to play for an
audience that we'd never played for before but without making any compromises on
the band or on the style or what songs we were playing, we were still being 100%
Combichrist and still able to play for something completely different. That was
the best of the whole opportunity I think, that we could get to a different,
bigger audience without compromising anything that had to do with the band.
Finally do you have any message
for your UK fans?
Without you guys we're nothing so we
appreciate every single show, you coming out, it's always good to see everybody
out and the more we tour the more familiar faces we see every time we play so
I'm looking forward to this one and I'm looking forward to the next time again,
and hopefully the next time again and we'll see how many times we get to do it
before we have to put it on the shelf (laughs)
Thanks very much for talking to
us.
My pleasure.
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